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Post by Gerry on Jan 6, 2019 9:17:03 GMT -5
I paired this poem with "Sweet" for several reasons. First of all, her use of couplets. Secondly, the there's an ironic tone to titles of both poems that informs our reading. I'm curious as to your observations and thoughts on this poem reading closely as to why you think it works and why you think I chose this to include in the packet.
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Post by lildawnrae on Jan 7, 2019 8:43:33 GMT -5
Hello everyone
I did some research and discovered there really is an Icecap cocktail. I’d say the speaker starts with reality—happy hour—a bar—a cocktail—and a double (drink of forgetting). Of course there’s a second meaning to icecap. We as consumers are drinking up the icecap that is crucial to the health of our planet. The speaker becomes wilder and more metaphorical as she asks for Fog, Niagara Falls, Tempest or Hail. She wants to drink herself unconscious—does not want to be rescued. I think there’s an interesting counterpoint to her increasingly huge attempt to drink the world that’s summed up in the line “I want thirst to drink me.” As she consumes the world, drinks from “God’s faucet,” the world is drinking her. It’s almost a formula—we consume and we end up being consumed by earth itself. Maybe we end up as more than a “bucket of blood,” but not in the universe of this poem. So the speaker starts with a cocktail in a bar, but ends up expressing a rather bleak philosophy. Not the first to which this has happened, I’d guess.
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Post by bluebird on Jan 8, 2019 12:05:35 GMT -5
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Post by bluebird on Jan 8, 2019 12:18:38 GMT -5
hid lildawnrae: I also thought about molotov cocktail....used in WWII as an bottle of flammable liquid that would ignite...so this brings up another possibility for the poem "Happy Hour" an underlying theme of vengeance perhaps?
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Post by linm on Jan 8, 2019 15:01:42 GMT -5
Hi Everyone!
A poem that has “Make it a double” as its second line really should be in couplets. A lot of drink names are poetic or at least humorous; she jumps off the “happy hour” idea to do some joking around. As jokes often go, there’s a dark underside. “Icecaps,” not a hospitable locale, playing off the idea of a “night cap,” a drink to end the evening, but with something icy not mellow; “Fog on the River,” dangerous going; “Niagara Falls on the rocks”/ Niagara falls on the rocks, a tough landing; a Tempest with a chaser of by hail,” really rough stormy weather, with howling on the rocks, maybe Shakespearean tragedy. And by this point the speaker is pretty soused.
The sudden turn in the second half of the third couplet feels aggressive, as if the speaker’s rejecting pleas of friends to take a pause. The rest of the poem calls for more drinking, deconstructing the conceit of the drink names, turning them into vehicles for self-destruction—crawling under the icecaps, dunking under the falls and “chugging” to unconsciousness. The final couplet is astounding to me. “I want thirst to drink me,” feels like a reversal (like “I want Vodka to drink me”)— but we don’t drink thirst. If you come back as a bucket of blood, then you could be drunk. (Aren’t we all already “buckets of blood”?) This sets up another crazy level of word play. The speaker is drunk, deliberately so, but wants to be drunk by thirst. Totally united to, consumed by, drinking. There’s a nihilistic movement here—the poem devolves triumphantly into total slosh.
Thirst is a concept, a word for a biological need, a metaphor for an emotional need. The speaker is consumed by it, two ways. Why is this paired with Gregerson’s serious, slow paced, literal and unplayful poem? They’re both in the first person. There’s at least one narrative going on in both. But also, both poems seem to come out of a need for resolution which can’t be found.
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Post by Gerry on Jan 8, 2019 21:10:15 GMT -5
So far, so good. Does anyone else hear "hell" when she asks for "a chaser of Hail"? Consider how that brings some contrast to God's faucet, and the bucket of blood. God's faucet might be a Eucharist reference (the wine as blood of Christ), which leads to our "return." Such a reading complicates the "bucket of blood" ending.
Lin is right about the thirst in this poem. There is a neediness in the poem. A desire for happiness that isn't found.
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Post by Jimmy on Jan 8, 2019 22:05:51 GMT -5
My first and still most true reaction to this poem is to think about how it comments on how we are destroying our environment. I read sarcasm in the tone from its start. Our society, drunk on fossil fuels. Fiddling while the city burns. Happy Hour for sure.
The the first short lines enact this with their offhand sound. The idea of asking for a drink named after a landform under a attack is itself sarcastic. As an aside, I also think of nightcap when I hear the call for an ice cap. The last drink of the night seems like an ironic nod toward our demise.
She catalogues other wonders of natural beauty as drinks she’d like to consume and the tone for me builds from sarcasm to defeat. Let’s just consume all the beauty that is left she seems to say. This would be a realistic attitude for a drunk.
Beginning with the third couplet, the poem deepens. We get this with the reference to the Tempest. She wants to consume yet another phenomenon from the natural world but also beckons Shakespeare’s play which has its own commentary on human manipulation of the natural world. I’m not well versed on this but I was able to find an article suggesting Prospero laments his own impact on the island where the play takes place.
This is where it gets interesting. Prospero leaves his island but the speaker of this poem does not want to be rescued. I read the fourth couplet as a sort of going to the source, to consume the strongest drink, sort of throw herself completely at its mercy. There seems to me an idea of sacrifice at work here. I wonder if the speaker is both lamenting and acknowledging her (our) role as humans in the destruction of our world. Possibly she is suggesting a sort of rebirth by allowing herself to be destroyed as well, in a way becoming one with the earth.
I too really hit the wall with the bucket of blood line. I searched and found it is the title of a b horror movie from the fifties in which a deranged man creates art out of people he murders. I don’t think she intends to reference the movie as the title is not capitalized. However, the movie’s plot got me thinking about the artist becoming one with his or her art and being preserved in a way, sort of like Yeats suggests in Sailing to Byzantium (at the end of the movie the murderer/artist hangs himself and there is apparently a line about how he becomes his own best art). I can feel such an idea maybe at work here but at this point can’t put it into words or reconcile it with the rest of the poem.
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Post by Jimmy on Jan 9, 2019 18:17:55 GMT -5
I will say what sticks with me after another day to reflect is the humility associated with that bucket of blood image. When I’m honest about it, that’s what struck me the first time I read it. Reduction, humility, slop. This is not an especially hopeful vision for our place in the world but the poem’s salvation(?) is in its uplifting rhythm at that point and in the speaker’s expressed desire to let that elemental experience come. I’m most interested in getting to the poet’s fuzzy feeling that bred the image and I wonder if sometimes that can be best grasped by thinking through my gut reaction to what I’ve read.
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Post by Gerry on Jan 10, 2019 0:15:29 GMT -5
Let's look at the poem another way: it uses the language of drinking. What if it's a poem about alcohol abuse? The Tempest could not be a Shakespearean reference, but a reference to a tempestuous relationship. Niagara Falls was once a honeymoon spot. Fog could refer to being in a fog... Thoughts?
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Post by Jimmy on Jan 10, 2019 7:12:10 GMT -5
I can accept that it leans more in the direction of being a poem about drinking. That had crossed my mind but the use of natural features for drink names influenced me to think more about global warming as I was reading. In this time, I don’t know how you can have Ice Caps at the beginning of a poem and not intend that the reader think this way. Still, the poem’s title brings me back to drinking and its ending (pure blood ready to receive alcohol or cleansed blood finally free of it) seems more related to alcohol abuse than global warming. I still feel like the poem suggests both interpretations while being more heavily involved with one than the other.
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Post by linm on Jan 10, 2019 14:08:33 GMT -5
I realized this morning -- one poem is about hunger (the possum must be hungry"; the "other people" who "have so little" are likely hungry also) the other is about thirst.
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Post by Gerry on Jan 10, 2019 18:47:02 GMT -5
Jimmy, we all bring our schema--that background of interests, reading, knowledge, etc--to a poem. That said, Happy Hour is probably at least a dozen years old...
And Lin has hit the nail on the head re: my pairing logic.
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Post by betsey on Jan 10, 2019 21:43:59 GMT -5
The other thing that occurred to me is that both poems are fracture poems - in style and content. I agree it could be the drinking, but also felt the environmental degradation, perhaps global warming in the cross hairs here? I have rarely seen such wild metaphors in a poem. Laugh out loud stuff, despite the seriously bloody subject.
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Post by Susan on Jan 13, 2019 18:43:51 GMT -5
This poem is full of sharp edges: icecap, rocks, hail, subglacial passageways (which I assume are icy)
The ironic tone is similar to Gregerson, as is the title (also ironic, the opposite of what is inside the poem.) Couplets too, but Buffam is more direct and doesn’t bring in as many elements as Gregerson. The speaker is talking to us about herself, and shares direct statements about what the speaker wants and doesn’t want : I don’t want to be rescued. I want to crawl through … I want thirst to drink me I want to come back…
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Post by Gerry on Jan 14, 2019 11:46:29 GMT -5
One of the things you'll see, too, in all this, is that I often pair a longer poem with a shorter one, to help emphasize how writers live in their own styles, and yet can do similar things strategically, formally, tonally, etc...
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